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Black Like Me

S11 E210: “You Can Determine Your Future By How Much You Invest In Your Children”: Kaleem Caire Is Building For Our Children

September 2, 2025 by Eli Steenlage

Kaleem Caire shares how his family, their audacity, and legacy have inspired him to create change in Madison. They discuss how Kaleem challenged Dr. Gee to build something new – his church, social justice non-profits, The Center for Black Excellence and Culture. The inspiration came from each other to see something new built. 

Listen to how education is a major factor for the health of the community by investing in the next generation who will be running the community. Kaleem explains what is behind One City Schools and what they are doing different to shift the educational possibilities. 

Leaders in the Black community face unique challenges and it is especially true when they are innovate. As a social innovator, Dr. Gee explores what Kaleem does to stay healthy and balanced in the stress of his work. Plus, hear new Black Ice Breakers that will make you laugh and find cultural connection.

Learn more about One City Schools

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S11 E209: “You Cannot Dream For Another Person”: Dr. Audrey Mukwavi Matimelo Empowers South Africans To Create Transformation

August 19, 2025 by Eli Steenlage

Dr. Gee talks with his friend Dr. Audrey Mukwavi Matimelo about her passion for empowering others through the “Self Help Group Concept.” Hear how this approach to maximize inherent gifts and talents for social and economic transformation, is not only needed in South Africa but also in the US where our systems are failing us.

Dr. Audrey shares how this concept works at three levels, which are applicable in many contexts and has been influential in Dr. Gee’s non-profit leadership. Don’t miss this conversation with visionary leaders that partners across continents. 

Dr. Audrey Mukwavi Matimelo has been working as a community development practitioner since 2005, and her work with the Self Help Group concept has enabled her to effectively mobilise and engage with groups of women, youth, and men for social and economic development. She is a passionate advocate of the Self Help Group concept, and has travelled to India, Kenya and Zimbabwe to implement and grow the idea.

In 2001, Dr Audrey  got the opportunity to study community development. This led to her resigning her job after 10 years  in the banking industry to pursue studies in the United Kingdom and later in South Africa. Dr Audrey Matimelo has successfully completed her PhD in the school of Science and Agriculture, Rural Resource Management and was awarded a Doctorate Degree from the University of KwaZulu-Natal. Her thesis was on mobilizing rural assets for women empowerment. Her study explores various forms of poverty and focuses mainly on the Self Help Group concept and its impact among poor women of KwaZulu Natal, South Africa.

Learn more about the Zimele Wethu Foundation

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S11 E208: “I Think They Will Be Coming From All Across The Country”: Dr. Ruben Anthony Talks Madison’s South Side Black Renaissance

August 5, 2025 by Eli Steenlage

Hear about Dr. Ruben Anthony’s early years in the Bronx, where he saw the birth of hip-hop in his community and the excellence of Black arts at The Apollo.  These two leaders and visionaries discuss what the new developments in Southern Madison means to the community, state, and the country. They also break down the Black and race-related dynamics in Madison as they pursue their major initiatives. 

Dr. Anthony talks about the innovative and national development of the Urban League’s Black Business Hub that he has started. Previously, there was not a place where Black excellence could be on display in Madison. Also, don’t miss a fun edition of Black Ice Breakers where there is strong agreement on the proper way to eat grits. 

The Black Business Hub

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S11 E207: Dr. Gee’s Therapy Session With Dr. Chris Bass: Healing From Loss, Mourning, And Family Transitions

July 25, 2025 by Eli Steenlage

Dr. Gee talks to returning guest Dr. Chris Bass about the mourning process of losing his mother over the previous year. They talk about the need for rest and space in mourning in order to have the energy to focus on the work that would have made his mother proud. Hear about the activities and accomplishments that honor his mother going forward. 

Dr. Bass gives advice for making sure people take time and space for healthy relationships and themselves. They discuss the unique times that Blacks folks in particular are facing with the challenges in our culture and society. 

Dr. Chris Bass has served clinically in a variety of posts including; Clinical Director at a residential treatment facility for adjudicated late adolescent males, Psychologist for the City of Atlanta and Senior Psychological Partner at The Bass Medical and Psychological Consultants firm LLC. He has held faculty appointments on the campuses of Hampton University, Morehouse College, University of Georgia, Oglethorpe University and others. He continues to serve as a faculty member in the Department of Psychology at Clark Atlanta University.

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S11 E206: “It Costs You Something To Navigate Whiteness” With Dr. Angela Byars-Winston

July 8, 2025 by Eli Steenlage

Returning guest, Dr. Byars-Winston, is the inaugural chair of the UW- Madison’s Institute of Diversity Science. She honestly explores what doing research on causes of group-based discrimination and what effective ways to eliminate discrimination look like in our current social and political environment. They discuss that more people than the media and politicians appear are in favor of broad diversity.

The conversation covers how most businesses want to hire a diverse staff but don’t necessarily want to use the DEI labels. Dr. Byars-Winston explains that there is and can be data to back up approaches to diversity in the workplace but most do not have access to the information now. As an example she shows the lack of available evidence illustrated in a public hearing in WI State Assembly. 

Hear about the ties between Dr. Byars-Winston’s work and The Center for Black Excellence and Culture’s goals. Also, listen in to understand the importance mentorship representation.

Heads of UW system, state agencies defend diversity, inclusion practices to audit committee, Wisconsin Examiner Article

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S11 E205: “It Feels Out Of Control”: How White People Are Processing This Political Moment With Jeremy Holiday And Eli Steenlage

June 24, 2025 by Eli Steenlage

Dr. Gee had been hearing reactions from his white friends that they are surprised and deeply discouraged by what our government is doing to American society. To hear a just few perspectives on this political moment, podcast producers Jeremy Holiday and Eli Steenlage join the conversation to talk about their own feelings and what they are hearing. Dr. Gee highlights some of the differences between what the Black community and white community understand and see happening right now. The Black community has been trying to say that things are out of control historically and this is just another phase of it.

Also, after hearing all of the Black Ice Breaker questions and responses, don’t miss how Jeremy and Eli react to the cultural differences and similarities. Going deeper, they share what has surprised them as they have learned more about Black culture. 

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