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Dr. Alex Gee talks with former Wisconsin Secretary of the Department of Corrections, Ed Wall about his experience working in the criminal justice system. Ed Wall was appointed by Governor Scott Walker and confirmed by the state senate to serve in his cabinet. Their conversation covers the inside story of Wall’s book, Unethical. Life in Scott Walker’s Cabinet and the Dirty Side of Politics, a revealing and harrowing account of life at the highest levels of the Walker administration and the difficult, life-altering lessons learned along the way.